Better Encryption

[hitchcockgreen]

http://www.montrealgazette.com/technolo ... story.html

Hey Dx, just use this method for asset encryption.

[Dx.]

Sussman adds that "a truly random number generator will provide impenetrable encryption for communications

That isn't true, I heard it discussed months ago how any encryption can be broken at the quantium level.

[hitchcockgreen]

Not possible according to current quantum theory.
No way of determining unknowable values at that level.
Perhaps for encryption generated through other means, but using quantum variance measurements guarantees no duplication of the encryption key.

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[Dx.]

If a man made it, another man can break it, i don't know all the details on it but even in space you see patterns, i would expect their true random numbers are more wishful thinking than anything else.

[Blunt Force Trauma]

If a man made it, another man can break it, i don't know all the details on it but even in space you see patterns, i would expect their true random numbers are more wishful thinking than anything else.

You're arguing with Werner Heisenberg on this one.

[Dx.]

The relationship he came up with was the position and energy of a particle can only be known to a certain amount.

The quantum info i heard was that there's a quantum machine that can be made that can decrypt anything, they didn't say anything but a quantum generated number. Light has a constant speed so who knows.

Another thing that could be said is one may create order by introducing disorder.

[FirBirGir]

If a man made it, another man can break it, i don't know all the details on it but even in space you see patterns, i would expect their true random numbers are more wishful thinking than anything else.

That rings of truth and has held true so far in history - nothing is ever perfect.

My question is, how does anyone encrypt it? If a key is used to decrypt it, then can't the key be guessed given enough time? If not a key, how does someone go about decrypting it?

Eddy

[FirBirGir]

Not possible according to current quantum theory.
No way of determining unknowable values at that level.
Perhaps for encryption generated through other means, but using quantum variance measurements guarantees no duplication of the encryption key.

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So you're saying that you cannot reverse engineer the encryption key, correct? I can buy that, we rely on this type of encryption today and it can be made better.

The weakness in encryption is the key itself. Unless it's long enough to thwart the computing power that doubles every 18 months, the data is vulnerable; not from cracking the encryption but from guessing the key.

I'm reading a book called REAMDE by Neal Stephenson right now that uses the premise of re-encrypting data to hold it hostage instead of decrypting it and taking the data. Interesting thought - you get a virus that encrypts your data using quantum level encryption then waits for you to purchase the key. I wonder if that would motivate someone to figure out a way to defeat it

Eddy

[Dx.]

I'm trying to find the radio show audio file but IIRC it was something about a quantum entanglement device and things being in multiple stats at the same time and how the military wanted to construct the device for the purpose of decrypting anything.

With what we know the big bang created chaos, we also know from that came order as stars, planets, etc... formed, I have to believe nothing can be truely random forever.

[Blunt Force Trauma]

I wasn't referring to encryption hacking or breaking, I was referring to the ability to generate true random numbers.

[Kahless]

BTF-I sent you an email. Let me know what you think.

Kahless