original NoLimit members NoLbayoubleader is back

[Black Dog Grizzly]

We're not trolls. Me and Spork are just pointing out facts, deal with it.

[Blunt Force Trauma]

If you don't understand the difference between truth and being a troll, you're as confused about what a troll is as you are about the history of BZ.

But you learned from those at the bz1.net and its forum, so it's no real surprise.

And spork's response to an idiomatic expression is one of around three reasons I gave up that lobby years ago. Since my interest in the game was waning, but was still alive, and the game frequency at BZ1.net dwindled, meant having a lot of lobby time with that kind of logic and middle-school processing. Towards the end of my time there it was getting really bad with spork, golem, spock, paco, etc. It reached the point of being intellectually tedious. I seriously can't imagine having that in the lobby constantly. As I've said many times before, serendipitously the haters on BZE became one of its greatest attractions. . .that being a social filter for kids like you and the child-men.

[Sno]

This forum and "BzE" are both obsolete. Do a Google Search for "Battlezone 1" and you'll find the Battlezone 1.5 installer download and the active server with all the players.

ob·so·lete: No longer produced or used; out of date.

By definition, that also means 1.5 is obsolete.






However, seeing that BzE is still being worked on, it's technically not obsolete...just as these forums aren't as even Spork released his stench in here.

[Sporkinator]

1.5 is actively played, and Ken is still working on it in his free time. Therefore, 1.5 isn't obsolete. However, since nobody plays BzE, it classifies as obsolete regardless of whether or not it's being worked on.

[Black Dog Grizzly]

Once again.... You bze babies don't understand the logic of what's obsolete. The idea of me and spork are saying is Battlezone enhanced is obsolete. You guys say the complete opposite of that, you say "Battlezone 1.5 is obsolete" Please don't make me laugh... We have more players then you guys, so I guess Battlezone enhanced is obsolete. Is there anymore questions do you guys like to add.

[blue banana]

You guys have a HUGE ego about BZE... let us go over the facts:

Battlezone Enhanced is created/supported by fans who wanted to contribute to the community. Sadly, it turned out to be an extremely buggy version of the game that went down the drain. To this day, it has an all-time high of 1 players every 2 months, which creates very interesting games. It is hackable, there is no such game that cannot be hacked. The reason why there are no hackers, is because there was nothing to hack.
Battlezone 1.5 is created/supported by an actual and legitimate programmer, who worked on the original game. This game turned out to fix MANY bugs, and also add support for Lua programming. It currently stands at about 10 players in the game, at any given moment. Yes, there were two hackers in its time, out of the mass multitude of players.

Discussion over.

[FirBirGir]

Hey, your banana wouldn't be blue if you let go of it every once in awhile. Just sayin...

So you come to this forum to tell us this? If even half of what you say is true, you'd have no reason to even come here at all. So why are you here other than you are for some strange reason paranoid that we exist, that we existed before you did, that we'll be here long after you're gone. Just what is you guys problem?

Also, I can't figure out how you can be so misguided. I can point out so many holes in your little speech but why bother, you'd just say I'm wrong and you're right which takes the debate nowhere.

When was the last time you played BZE? If you haven't played, then shut up and go home. It's pretty simple...

Eddy

[FirBirGir]

1.5 is actively played, and Ken is still working on it in his free time. Therefore, 1.5 isn't obsolete. However, since nobody plays BzE, it classifies as obsolete regardless of whether or not it's being worked on.

If nobody plays BZE, then why are you here? It should be a non-issue from your point of view, yet it's not. Since your panties are definitely in a bunch, clearly you are insecure about something. Could it be that you're simply wrong?

[blue banana]

I did not join this discussion to talk about me,I should be insignificant compared to the sizes of your egos.

I HAVE played BZE, my world is not that small. Just because I am new to your forum doesn't mean I do not know what I am talking about. BZE has so many holes in it I am not surprised why nobody plays it. It was promising during development, but until you see the bugs you will never get further from here.

Aaand, let me guess, you have never played 1.5, have you...

[Sporkinator]

If nobody plays BZE, then why are you here?

I came here to let NoLimit V^^^V Bayou know that this forum and BzE are obsolete, and to inform him where he should go to find the game installer and the only active server.

The real question is: why are YOU guys here? Every now and then, a new member posts here, wanting to get back into Battlezone, and you guys NEVER help them. Instead, you just tell them to play BzE and they they are tricked into thinking that the BZ community is dead. You never point them to BZ installer. You never point them to the Battlezone Community Forums at bz1.org. You just let them rot, let them give up on the game. Your incompetence is simply staggering. None of you here care about Battlezone. All you are is a bunch of has-beens, who still pretend they are relevant.

[Blunt Force Trauma]

The real question is: why are YOU guys here?

Spork your mental processing and logic REALLY is middle-school level.

First BZE is played. Maybe not the numbers you like. So that right there makes you a propagandist and a liar. Nothing new.

Second, you're posting to people who have played the game far longer than you. Pretty much everyone at this forum or the BZE server. You want to compare the BZ interest or ethics of this forum to spock's forum or server is laughable. Remember, we KNOW the history, we were here. What you fail to grasp is we aren't the kiddies at BZ1.net that listen with googly eyes and a slack jaw. Here, we see it as just more of the ol child-man routine.

Third, script kiddie hacks like you were second only to the difficulties of the game to play on new OS' that made people leave.

So pretty much every time you come over here to post, I really want to give you a tissue to wipe the fecal paste off the corners of your mouth.

So yes, I see you purely as a script kiddie who helped trash the game. So why are you here?

Please let BZE's social filter I mentioned above do its job. And take the carpet crawler with you.

[Dx.]

After all these years you guys can't be civil. You really need to get over yourselves, no version of the game currently out is the real game, as you guys used to like to say. No version out is the legal retail game.
All versions of Bz are obsolete because much better, newer games are out. As i said before, all you trolls do is try to trash everything that is not yours. What positive things can you do? Are you so bored in 1.5 that you need to make posts here for spite? Spork, get a job, Black Dog Grizzly, go take your ADHD medication and stop repeating everything Spork says, you're a nutter and blue banana prove what you say or stop your nonsense.

[blue banana]

First, BZE is played. BZE is played so rarely, it would be an occasion to get a full, running game going. Nothing new.

Second, you have played BZ for a good 2 years longer than we have. What does that make you... The Best Veterans of BZ1?? It is not 1999 anymore, where that actually DID matter. Your arrogance causes you to think your minuscule community knows everything about BZ, which is hardly true. Remember, we KNOW history too, many of us at bz1.org were playing too. AHadley, the wiki host, is guaranteed to know more about BZ1 AND BZ2 than you. What you fail to grasp is you were not alone when BZ was in its prime.

Third, kiddie hacks ARE second to the mass majority of the already bugged BZE. If you cannot compensate for the future of OS, why would you expect to have the future community join. You seem like you want the BZ community to stay small, as if you wanted it to die off. Why are YOU here, giving back to the community you already know is dying.

Dx., if both versions of BZ are obsolete, why the hell are you still here. You claim there are better games than BZ, so why dont you go support those games instead. Those of us who like BZ wish to stay with it, we still hold the BZ games as the best we have played.

As with proving what I say, if you can actually play your own game, there is no reason. I found several bugs: Many of the host commands did not work; mouse sensitivity was off the scale; piloted APCs could never be used again; many commands failed to go through on MP; etc... Yeah it has been a while, but I seriously doubt you found the bugs I just listed.

[Black Dog Grizzly]

stop repeating everything Spork says.

Woow this is new. I repeat everything Spork says, not really that's a false logic. Dx stop trying to prove yourself its never going to work. Go play battlezone 1.5 and give up your hobby ways so we all can be a big happy family. Do you wish that? you know I do (Sarcasm).

[Blunt Force Trauma]

Remember, we KNOW history too, many of us at bz1.org were playing too. AHadley, the wiki host, is guaranteed to know more about BZ1 AND BZ2 than you. What you fail to grasp is you were not alone when BZ was in its prime.

As with proving what I say, if you can actually play your own game, there is no reason. I found several bugs: Many of the host commands did not work; mouse sensitivity was off the scale; piloted APCs could never be used again; many commands failed to go through on MP; etc... Yeah it has been a while, but I seriously doubt you found the bugs I just listed.

First, I don't see AHadley posting in this thread, so that's a strawman that can be ignored.

Second, you want to trade bug for bug against BZ1.5? I don't, not for the reason you assume, it's because as we've seen countless times, we go down the rat hole the BZ1.5 bug is minor and inconsequential and the BZE bug is game breaking. The few times I saw you play over in BZE, your skill set was so low, I really doubt you had the wherewithal to actually make an insightful evaluation.

Third, you don't see me over in the BZ1.net forum or server dropping turds of ignorance. So, let me revise, your whole post can be ignored.

[blue banana]

Oh please... you make excuses and claims that come from a 10-year old high on cocaine.

AHadley does not need to post in this thread to support our points, you should go look at what he has done. Your claims of "more knowledge than us" is still invalid, since we practically know the same as each other.

Like I said, the BZE bugs are game-breaking. And still, you refuse to play your own MOD and watch the bugs soar. I also have never played BZE under the alias "blue banana", partly because I rejoined the community in February. I have no idea what my other username(s) were, so your argument of "low skill set" is invalid too. Dont lie on your own forums, especially when you lie to make yourselves seem better.

And finally, we dont see you over at the bz1.org forum, partly because you are pathetic. You should actually take these posts we have made (countless times) and do what your players want you to do, otherwise your work is in vain.

God... even on your own forums you drop turds of ignorance. I would expect more from a group of veterans like you, instead of this lame arrogance.

[FirBirGir]

So BB, why don't you enlighten us on the BZE bugs that are game breaking (and no, none of the ones you listed are real, per the many hours played this weekend).

BTW, any of us wouldn't get 2 minutes on the BZ1.net forums before we would be banned. Spock isn't nearly as tolerant as we are. Anything outside of his script is quickly squashed as you well know.

[blue banana]

If you ever learn to read above posts...

Your community is corrupt. We have a history with you, we know who you are. Not only do you blatantly prove these statements, but you also immaturely disregard them:

"Battlezone" Club, fake 1.4 installer and BZE mod

As most of you know, there's this group of hackers presenting themselves as BZ Club. They have fake BZ1.4 installer and a silly mod which they falsely call A New BZ. They've been able to trick few unaware oldtimers and new players that they represent the real BZ. Anyone who installs BZ from the original CD and applies the needed patches (or downloads pre-patched BZ98 and 1.5b installers), can see with their own eyes that BZ Club is lying. With their fake 1.4 installer (not leading to original BZ server session) they are trying to present that BZ is dead, so everybody would move to their vision of new BZ called BZE. Like that, they are hurting the original (1.4) and its probable replacement (1.5).

Main BZ community at Battlezone1.net offers real BZ1.4 and BZ1.5 installers.

If you are one of those unaware people who got tricked, I hope you will read this and come back to original BZ (whether that'll be 1.4 or not yet finished 1.5). But if you are one of those who joined those hackers on purpose, you should be aware that you can't be "friends" with both parties, so by joining them you are guilty by association and you are not welcome in BZ anymore. You may not be sorry now, but you will be when 1.5 gets released and when we get hundreds of new players.

BZEC forum with few hackers who post there, its 911 server and their fake BZ installer called BZE started ruining BZ in 2007 (when there was no other forums) and almost made it in 2008 (when there was no other servers), forcing everyone to quit on BZ and move to BZE. This forum made in 2008 and BZ1.net server made in 2009 saved BZ from BZE(C) attrocity. They didn't give up, so recently they made another fake BZ installer called BZR-eaper.

You have to choose: play original Battlezone (1.4 and 1.5) and The Red Odyssey with us on BZ1.net or play their hacked mods.

BZEC/BZE has 5-6 active posters/players; you can find most of them on the Wall of Shame. They got there by hacking the original over the years. They don't think they were doing anything wrong, cause in their vocabulary hacking BZ = promoting BZE. Few hackers gathered on a separate server and session, playing some dumb mod, doesn't classify them as a community, especially not BZ community. They are banished BZ hackers, nothing more. As for 3-4 casual players over there, they are lost BZ'oners, tricked that BZE is BZ and that BZEC is BZ forum. They should realize the truth sooner or later and come back to 1.5.

You are despised at our community, with plenty of haters toward you. You have obviously done something to deserve all of these claims, as that topic has plenty of points against you.

[FirBirGir]

We did do something, we continued to exist in spite of all the crap that Spock and his followers do to try and discredit us. We offer an alternative to a puny dictatorship that you seem to be caught up in and don't realize it. We can't be controlled by Spock so he's determined to undermine us and BZ at all costs, even the truth...

Did you know that Spork is an admitted hacker? It's easy to claim we're hackers yet you rub elbows with hackers and seem to be fine with it.

Did you know that BZ 1.5 and BZE share a lot of the same code base? Did you know that many of the fixes in 1.5 came from BZE code and vise versa? The two are more like than you care to admit it seems.

And thanks for posting Spock's script that I referred to early, saves me the trouble of repeating any of it.

[blue banana]

Even I know who you guys are. You guys have hacked in front of my own eyes. I would never want to come to an inactive community such as yours, even if this "dictatorship" exists. You have no credit, all you have created is a bunch of IA missions and some planets.

Spork admitted to hacking, and I have no problems with that. You know why? Because he admitted to it. You guys still have not, and there is no need for it anymore. We know you are a group of hackers, I know you are a group of hackers. Your claims are invalid, again.

As with your code claims, how would it be possible for you to get the code base? You probably dont even have the original source code, and BZE existed before 1.5. And of course the code is similar, they are the SAME GAME. You pretty much explained to me something we already know, its like comparing Windows XP to 2000.

Yeah, sure BZE is a MOD. But like I said, without any reason to actually play BZE, there would be no players. There is still no reason to play BZE, considering its development is dwarfed by the bz1.org community. Bayou has already come into our servers, I have seen him several, several times. This topic is getting irrelevant.